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    hi newbie with question

    first of all id like to say hello to all you guys on this great site

    and now down to business,i went to run my first gen tuono up today as i do every now and then when im not using it but this time it was flat,so i disconected the battery and put a charger on after leaving it to charge i returned a few hours later and reconected and hit the starter button only for it to click from what i presume is a solenoid located just behind the battery and thats all it does,i rocked it back and forth in gear to see if the starter was stuck but made no difference any ideas guys?

    bruce

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    Check yer battery bruce. Make sure the connections are clean and good, get a volt meter on it and see whit that reads.

    Oh and welcome mucker.

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    You could try leaving the battery on charge a bit longer,......mebbe overnight.Sometimes a few hours simply isnt enough time to charge the battery fully,....especially if you are using a trickle charger.

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    Likw so many owners starting bikes without running them at all just drains the battery. It doesn't achieve anything by starting them without running them Bruce. So many people ask this question.

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    when i first went to it it was spinning over but just not enough to fire and i drained the battery trying,so i didnt think it would take alot,i run it up and let it get to operating temp every week usualy i thought it would be a good idea,whats the best way of storing them over a length of time? remove battery altogether?

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    Get an optimate on it fella. Its the same as all vehicles as far as I'm aware you need the wheels running to run the alternator to keep the battery charged up. If you're firing it up without riding it its just draining the battery.

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    Big twins are hard to spin and prefer a fresh and FULLY charged battery. Slow charge overnight at 2 amps is what the wife recommends and she builds airplane batteries so I'll believe her. If the battery is older and/or the electrolytes are done, yer fucked.

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    If you're firing it up without riding it its just draining the battery.

    Not always the case mucker?

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    Sometimes ya just gotta hear the girl burble a bit.. I know I'm jonesing right now.

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    How come aldo. Surely starting it up uses juice from the battery and not riding it isn't charging it

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    bay the charging system should be giving the battery a little back or it's not functioning properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bay_1472 View Post
    Get an optimate on it fella. Its the same as all vehicles as far as I'm aware you need the wheels running to run the alternator to keep the battery charged up. If you're firing it up without riding it its just draining the battery.
    Not strictly true as the generator is on the end of the crank.When the motor has started the generator should be working and sending some charge to the battery.However,leaving the bike to idle wont put back much charge.At those revs the alternator will be just holding its own against the lights,injection system and of course,charging the battery.To charge the battery properly the revs probably need to be 3k rpm or summat.
    Personally,I connect the battery to an Optimate and leave it.I dont keep starting the engine through the winter,....T engines aint like Doocardi's that need turning over to stop the cambelts deforming.

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    Ye know whit. Keith, methinks that I'll drap by the local shop that sells the Opitmates and hook up poor little Andiamo... I think that I'll install a permanent plug... I may need help from the wife, but she's the one that fixes airplane electronics and builds wiring harnesses for a living.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith B View Post
    Personally,I connect the battery to an Optimate and leave it.I dont keep starting the engine through the winter,....T engines aint like Doocardi's that need turning over to stop the cambelts deforming.
    Ditto.

    I used to love my old VFR750FV, I'd leave it in a cold garage for 4-5 months over Winter, just sat there not hooked up to anything, and it'd fire up first prod of the button, every time guaranteed. Typical Honda reliability. Great bike, but nowhere near as much fun as the T (though not much is I guess).

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    does an optimate just put in a small constant charge?

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    Yes just a small charge, it should keep the battery topped up all the time its on

    Never use a car charger on a bike battery, you could melt it

    The click you hear is the solonoid trying to connect

    I start my bike and run it down the street on a dry winters day but not because the bike needs it

    I NEED IT

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    From what I've read the optimate does far more than a normal charger, it runs the battery through differing cycles, ie it will fully discharge, slow trickle charge and then it takes it fir a night out and nurses a sore heid in the morning.

    Sounds like an admirable wife.

    I don't use any of them, so only whit I've read.

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    Hi bruce, ive got mine sat on a datatool charger,same as an optimate just a different brand, there have been quite a few post's regarding charging issues, there are quite a few of us on here run our bikes on 14volt batts, i think they were original equipment on caponord's, i might be wrong. since i put the bigger battery on mine its been fine, when trying to start my gen 1 on the 12v bat it would only show 9.5 volts when turning the bike over. no wonder it didnt want to go..

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    Aint got a clue what battery is in mine. Will have to check next time I start it which won't be this side of Xmas

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    Quote Originally Posted by shvlheadwolf View Post
    Ye know whit. Keith, methinks that I'll drap by the local shop that sells the Opitmates and hook up poor little Andiamo... I think that I'll install a permanent plug... I may need help from the wife, but she's the one that fixes airplane electronics and builds wiring harnesses for a living.
    You know it makes sense mate.
    My permanent plug sits under the rear seat cover next to the tool kit tray.

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